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  • John 9:12 am on February 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    The Bizarre Death of Godfather Actor, Joe Spinell 

    Blog Note:   Jill, are you familiar with the adult film star Jean Jennings? Joe was married to her in the late 70s.

    My whole life’s like a book. I go shootin’, ridin’ and fishin’. Listen, I’m a roper, I’m a doper, I’m a lover, I’m a fighter, I’m a rodeo rider.   –Joe Spinell

    It's good to be Willie Cicci!

    It’s good to be Willie Cicci!

    Actor Joe Spinell is best known for his role as Willie Cicci in Godfather 2, as well as the asthmatic loan shark who employs Rocky Balboa in the first Rocky movie. He was also popular in cop and gangster roles, and last but not least, his role as the slasher in 1980 in the really really bad B-movie “Maniac”. I rented it once in high school in the mid-80s, got through about 10 minutes before ejecting it and then watching something else.

    During the lean years before Rocky, it’s been said that Joe took care of Stallone with food, lodgings and money. Joe was even the Godfather to Sly’s boy, Sage. Joe was once paid $150,000 to play a small role as a detective in Sly’s 1981 film “Nighthawks” also starring Billy Dee Williams.

    I don’t even think of Maniac (1980) as a horror movie. The horrible thing is that people like this really exist.   –Joe

    Joe’s beloved mother died in 1987, and it affected him tremendously. His mom was Filimina Spagnuolo and she was also an actor. They had even worked together on a few projects. However, after the death of his mother, Joe found little work, was suffering from depression and was hitting the drugs and sauce pretty hard.

    Typical apartment buildings on Greenpoint Ave in Sunnyside, Queens, NY.

    Typical apartment buildings on Greenpoint Ave in Sunnyside, Queens, NY.

    Spinell was from Queens, NY, and by January 1989 he was living there in a typical apartment in Sunnyside on Greenpoint Ave. On the morning of his death, his close friend received a call from Joe. Joe had slipped in the shower and shattered the glass shower door, cutting himself on the back of his head and neck. He refused to go to the doctor preferring to wrap a towel around the wound(s). Joe fell asleep on the couch and bled to death. Joe had hemophilia also, so this decision led to his death. He was 52 years old.

    Joe Spinnel was once married to adult film star Jean Jennings from 77 to 79. He left behind an impressive body of film work that stands as a testament to his talent and unique screen presence as a character actor. An ex-wife (Jean), a daughter by Jean, two brothers and a sister survived Joe.

    At the time of his death, Joe was also working on a sequel to “Maniac” (dang, that would have been awesome! ;-0  Not.)

    In 2001, a documentary was produced, succinctly titled “The Joe Spinell Story”. Many famous actors and celebs are interviewed and quoted in the film, as it discusses Joe’s great acting ability, great human qualities, etc. Joe was a great guy, there is no doubt. That makes his bizarre death that much more painful and sad.

    Watch the entire film here:

     
  • John 9:20 am on February 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    John Holmes Last Known Address 

    According to Scott at findadeath.com, this is John’s last physical address before he was admitted into the Veteran’s Hospital in L.A.

    Go here and you can view the lobby, elevator and their apartment door. Scott has been tracking down all types of celebs and their final days, so he is pretty good at getting the info. In most cases, it’s pretty sad to see how destitute and broke some old TV and movie stars really were, before they passed on.

    Scott also runs Dearly Departed Tours, from which our lovely friend, Bonnie, took a tour last year and really enjoyed it.

     

    Panorama City, CA

     
    • Bonnie Brae 9:24 am on February 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      She sure did! I mean I sure did. It’s a great tour. Scott knows his stuff. Thanks for this post John. Get me an addy and I will make a video driving from here to Eddie Nashes house. ha

    • Jill C. Nelson 2:16 pm on February 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      It’s not a bad looking building from the front, but hard to say what it was like in ’87 when John and Laurie (and Laurie’s son) were living there. There had been a pool then, Laurie had said, but that overall, it was an average apartment. They’d had dogs and cats. As many people are aware, Holmes was a big fan of yard sales and flea markets. Laurie still has a few pieces of furniture that she and John had owned while living here which he restored. The photo at the following link shows John and Laurie in 1985, a year prior to receiving news that he was sick. http://johnholmesinches.blogspot.ca/2011/12/second-edition-of-inches-now-available.html

      Thanks, John.

    • jimmy---chicago 4:51 pm on February 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Nice building I wonder what the rent is like now for a place like that its not fancy like what chuck negrone’s but I see places like that all over, the type of place where people who have decent jobs live not high end but not yuca flats either

    • criticextraordinaire 7:12 pm on February 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      They need to put up a historical marker at that location, “John Holmes Slept Here”. Maybe one of those thingies that they embed in the sidewalk, or one of those old-school cast iron historical signs that has a brief story on it.

    • jimmy---chicago 8:49 pm on February 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      How about a huge phalic symbol like they used all through ancient history

  • John 10:14 am on February 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    The Negron's Ordered Delivery From Greenblatt’s Deli 

    Not much today, but I broke down and ordered Chuck’s book “Three Dog Nightmare”. It arrived the other day. I owned it once before, but lost it before I could really read it all. Man, with the cost of that book, you would think Chuck was still supporting a $2,000 a day junk habit. Thus, I had to dip into my own drug money to afford Chuck’s book about drugs. It’s true though, Joy Miller did have a big crush on him. But, he was 6’4″ and she about 4’11”. How was that ever going to work out.

    Anyways, for days and weeks on end, the Negrons would stay holed up at home, doing drugs and ordering food from Greenblatt’s Deli on Sunset. Open until 2 am, 365 days a year.

    Greenblatt's Deli on Sunset

    Greenblatt’s Deli on Sunset

    In the late 80s, I found an address for Chuck and he was living at these sweet condos in Santa Monica. Each condo has a view of the beach. They are referred to as “The Bunker”. He wasn’t broke yet!

    “The Bunker”

    “The Bunker”

     

     
    • Brandy 10:19 am on February 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks John! I’ve been waiting patiently for someone to do the expensive work for me and buy that book! I’m hoping Julia’s book is a bit more reasonable. But your synopsis is pretty much what I expected. The “bunker” is gorgeous.

      • John 10:57 am on February 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I had scored his book before, but my car was in the shop for a month, book gone, don’t know if it was in car, never saw the book again. It’s not at home, so someone is walking around with Chuck’s book, LOL

    • Brandy 10:24 am on February 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Side note….my husband is 6’3″ and I am 5’0″ and it works out just fine.

    • John 11:07 am on February 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      At this link, you can also get a glimpse into Chuck’s song royalty and payment situation, how he makes some money from all those great old songs, etc… http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BMk0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=LmsFAAAAIBAJ&pg=5543%2C575573

      • criticextraordinaire 4:48 pm on February 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Well, let’s hope that Chuck has enough money coming in from “Joy to the World” royalties that he can have his exploding schlong properly tended to by the medical community. 😀

  • John 12:10 pm on February 5, 2014 Permalink | Reply  

    Video Tribute To Philip Seymour Hoffman 

    We lost another one.

    My favorite Hoffman roles were of him as Brandt, the snotty assistant in Big Lebowski, he was great in Boogie Nights and also as the less than holy preacher in Cold Mountain. He was very good in Capote too, obviously.

    At a young age, Hoffman saw a play at a local theater and he was changed forever and he knew that acting was his calling. I’m reminded of how George Martin (of Beatles fame) said that seeing an orchestra perform when he was a boy fascinated him and led him into music.

    I remember well the very first time I heard a symphony orchestra. I was just in my teens when Sir Adrian Boult brought the BBC Symphony Orchestra to my school for a public concert. It was absolutely magical. Hearing such glorious sounds I found it difficult to connect them with ninety men and women blowing into brass and wooden instruments or scraping away at strings with horsehair bows.

     
    • jimmy-chicago 5:11 pm on February 5, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Did you ever see the movie Before the devil knowes your dead with hoffman and ethan hawk I wonder if that would be considered an “up scale” shooting gallery as opposed to wonderland

    • criticextraordinaire 7:53 pm on February 5, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I always thought that PSH would be a great choice to play the role of Bill Amerson in a Holmes biopic.

  • John 7:22 am on January 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Scott Thorson Is Headed To The Pokey 

    As OJ Simpson found out, you don’t go to Vega$ and screw around with crime. That city has a zero tolerance policy, and where you may get a paltry sentence for what OJ and Scott Thorson did in another state, Nevada will kick your ass instead. That place has enough assholes running around pulling scams and committing crimes. Scott initially received probation but now he’s looking at his original sentence of 8 to 20 years …. well, read more below from USA Today. He failed his drug test (again).

    RENO, Nev. (AP) — A former lover of Liberace who was the subject of an HBO film on the pianist’s life has been sentenced to eight to 20 years in a Nevada prison for failing another court-ordered drug test while on probation for burglary and identity theft convictions.

    Washoe District Judge Patrick Flanagan sentenced Scott Thorson on Wednesday after a string of bad drug tests capped by his failure to show up at a court-ordered treatment facility.

    Flanagan originally suspended the prison sentence in July and gave Thorson a second chance in September after testing positive for methamphetamine, but he failed tests twice in October and again on Nov. 1. He was arrested Nov. 19 after violating an order to enter an inpatient treatment facility in Reno two weeks earlier, court records show.

    Thorson, 54, whose real name is Jess Marlow, had admitted he was an addict but insisted he was determined to get sober when he tearfully appealed to the judge in September to spare him from prison.

    “I’m just asking for another chance,” Thorson said, explaining he was dealing with his newfound celebrity stature.”

    “I can’t help who I am,” he told the judge at the time. “I’m in show business. I attract these cameras.”

    Flanagan said it would be his “last chance.”

    “I’m not impressed — I don’t think anybody is — with this so-called celebrity status,” he said. “You’re just like any other addict who has committed a crime against a victim.”

    Thorson had said his goal was is to write another book on the heels of his Behind the Candelabra, which was used as the basis for the HBO film of the same name that won the Golden Globe for best TV movie earlier this month. Matt Damon played Thorson in the film, and Michael Douglas, who donned the flamboyant costumes to play Liberace, claimed his fourth Golden Globe for his work.

    Deputy District Attorney John Helzer said in urging prison time in September that Thorson had been trying to capitalize on his fame since he told arresting officers last year he couldn’t afford the bad publicity of going to jail.

    “He’s not a celebrity. He’s a story,” Helzer said. “It’s one of accusation and manipulation and failure.”

     
    • localarts 10:28 am on January 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      It wouldn’t have mattered if the judge had given him ten chances, Thorson will probably die in prison.

    • criticextraordinaire 9:35 pm on January 31, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I wonder if Eddie has any guys on the inside who could get to him?

      • John 8:30 am on February 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        We must remember, Fast Eddie beat that rap. He got the last laugh once again, that teflon bad ass!

        • localarts 10:13 am on February 1, 2014 Permalink

          It’s easy to beat the rap in California. Ed Nash was just another in a long list of high profile cases that walked…pretty sad when you think about it.

    • localarts 7:25 am on February 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I’m sure he does. Eddie will be 85 this year that in its self is amazing… With his age, I doubt he cares anymore or even remembers who Thorson is.

      • criticextraordinaire 8:49 am on February 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Yea Eddie’s the man. I wish HBO or one od the studios would do a biopic on him. Ronnie too.

      • John W 12:10 pm on February 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Criticx and localarts… And all readers. Some company has greenlighted the process to pursue and vent a certain movie script based on Ron Launius’ life. Just FYI, I’ll keep ya posted. Also coming next week, a certain Brady Bunch cast member partied… Well, you’ll have to wait n see!!

        • criticextraordinaire 1:44 pm on February 1, 2014 Permalink

          AWESOME NEWS, John. I’ve been waiting for something like this for ages. 🙂

        • John 9:10 am on February 2, 2014 Permalink

          This film group is out of Austin, Texas. More to come!

    • localarts 3:14 pm on February 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I just can’t imagine how accurate any movie about Launius would be. I know Roger Jacobs said Launius was alleged to have been involved in 27 murders while at the same time other news articles have quoted police as saying Ron Launius was nothing more than a “trouble maker” I think launius was discharged in 1972 went to federal prison in 74 transferred to LA in 77 and released in 78. Ron Launius had 4.5 to 5 year window between 72 & 81 to rack up that body count.

      You would think that if someone who was murdered were themselves involved in 27 murders, it would have been highly publicized.

  • John 8:17 am on January 23, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Read First Chapter Of Thorson’s “Behind The Candelabra” 

    You can probably find this book at any used bookstore for a buck or two, but in the meantime – check out the first chapter. Besides, how are you gonna keep them down on the farm once they’ve seen Liberace’s house!

    On November 11, 1918, headlines around, the globe trumpeted: PEACE! World War I, the war to end all wars, had come to an end. American doughboys were headed home and with them came a new sophistication, a new worldview. A popular song posed the question, “How’re you gonna keep them down on the farm after they’ve seen Paree?”

    There would be no keeping the boys who fought their way across Europe “down on the farm.” America was poised on the brink of an urban explosion that would be fueled by a technical revolution. Women abandoned their hobble skirts, became flappers, and emerged as a new social force. A booming economy and increased leisure time helped popularize new diversions like movies and radio. Flickering figures on a theater screen and electronically amplified voices coming from crystal tubes right in the living room pushed vaudeville to the brink of extinction. The entertainment industry would never be the same. All these events would have an effect on Liberace’s future.

    His birthplace, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, was a quiet backwater which didn’t respond quickly to the great events a home and abroad. Local farmers and men who worked the Great Lakes shipping trade still counted the weather more important than events overseas. The majority of the people descended from German immigrants; God-fearing, churchgoing, hardworking Lutherans who relaxed on weekends drinking the beer for which their city was famous. In the early years of the twentieth century, Milwaukee was a quiet, conservative community, an unlikely birthplace for the man who would call himself “Mr. Show Business.” Lee would never feel he belonged there.

    Read more

     
  • John 2:07 pm on January 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Porn Star’s Death Doesn’t Make For Humor 

    When John Holmes died in 1988, a local writer for the Texan, the school newspaper for the University of Texas, wrote a scathing rebuttal to an earlier hit piece in The Austin Chronicle (which is a free city paper found at any bus stop). The original column which I cannot find now, was titled something like “I’m glad he’s dead”. It was very brief, rude and is best summarized below by Lee Nichols. It’s strange, because as heated as both articles were, neither mentioned the Wonderland saga. Quite a bizarre war of words, and it happened 25+ years ago. In 1988, people still did not understand AIDS. Hell, I still remember the bad jokes. Famine, cancer and AIDS are just not good topics for comedy.

    Have a nice weekend.

    1988

    1988

     
    • criticextraordinaire 4:51 pm on January 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      The day that John died was indeed a sad one. I remember hearing the horrendous news as I drive into work that morning. When I arrived at the office I mentioned “Sad Day, John C. Holmes just passed away. “.

      A girl who worked for me was instantly dejected. “Johnny Wadd died? Man, I saw every one of his movies. This sucks.”

      ‘Twas the end of an era. The King was dead. Long Live the King. 😦

    • John W 5:37 pm on January 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Yes, I was in the hallway at high school when I overheard the news. I had not seen any porn, shocking!, but I still knew who the King was.

    • Mark C 3:20 am on January 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I remember back in 83 or 84 I was running Heavy Equipment & listen to radio all day long to pass the time.and I remember like it was yesterday that they said on FM radio station that soon you will be able to hear John Holmes right here on radio singing because he is right now in a studio making I think a whole music album.. I though to myself wow that going be strange to say the least. I think that one porn star woman done had made that Disco hit out few years before that. She did something the same during that whole song. So I guess I thought this could very well be possible & not a joke.
      But as we know now appears that is one dream did not come completely true for him.
      So I guess that scene in Boogie Nights do have some truth in it.
      Any of you remember hearing about this too??
      Not many people I know heard about that in my area, And myself mainly because dumb luck and having to spend 10 to 12 hours daily I was stuck in a little place with seat in something smaller than a phone booth.

    • criticextraordinaire 1:41 pm on January 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Here’s a link to the original article http://www.michaelcorcoran.net/archives/2283

      “He who lives by the sword…”
      Posted: April 12, 2013 | Author: mcorcoran | Filed under: Uncategorized | Leave a comment »
      By Michael Corcoran

      Justice has prevailed. John “Johnny Wadd” Holmes has AIDS! Finally, the guy whose member looked like the whole goddamn club has paid his debt to a society of guys whose sexual satisfaction came mainly from tossing off in sweaty stag closets while Big John eyed Miss Utah runners-up and went about filling them softly with his schlong, which looked like it took four “D” cell batteries. How I hated the guy with the Marty Allen haircut and the state of Florida between his legs. There he was, flickering in the dark, beckoning a procession of love slaves to “lay some skull on me, bitch,” and there I’d be, pitifully fueling his libido with quarters I’d stolen from my uncle’s coin collection, until 40 pieces of silver later I’d200px-John_Holmes2 make like a clumsy parrot and spill my seed. I’d watch Johnny play the meat in a variety of sandwiches, shining his flashlight into countless caverns and then walk away from the money shot like he’d just played a few hands of gin rummy. Then I’d go home and repeatedly dial the first six digits of the phone number of the girl who stuck the ends of her hair up her nostrils in social studies. I swore than if I ever had, like one month to live, the first thing I’d do is hunt down and kill Johnny Wadd and then I’d tell the girl from social studies to lay some skull on me. If I had only a day or two to live, I’d tell her to lay some skull on me, bitch.

      Those years of sexual frustration are long gone for me; I’ve had skull laid on me in eight states and Nuevo Laredo, and still the news about Johnny Wadd read like the headlines on V-J Day. I was fairly ecstatic when he was sent to prison for a few years for refusing to identify the killers of some coke dealers, but knowing that he was bisexual and had made a few gay films it became sort of a good news/ bad news deal. But now… I’m walking on air.”

      You can bet there was no joy in Smutville when it was announced that the Great White Hope, the Larry Bird of penis size, the guy who made the man with the Golden Arm feel shortchanged, is now packing a deadly weapon in his BVDs. Heck, Seka probably can’t give it away these days. Since J.W. worked both sides of the street and did a deuce in the joint with guys who get hot when they see pictures of the Grand Canyon, the odds that he got the deadly dose from heterosexual intercourse are about what you’d expect a horse with Jimmy Breslin in the saddle to go off at. Still, he probably nailed a few hundred bleachpits since contracting AIDS, and I can’t recall Johnny Wadd ever rolling out the latex carpet while the farmers’ daughters stripped down to their neck scarves. There probably hasn’t been this much panic in the jizz biz since ’86 when a studio guard yelled out, “Here comes Traci Lords’ father and does he look mad!” Serves ‘em right, the lucky stiffs.

      If there is a God, and I’m beginning to feel like there is, he won’t send Johnny Wadd to either heaven or hell, but banish him to an eternity in a porno booth watching a loop of lonely guys with small thingies having sex with wayward starlets, while Roy Cohn looks through the glory hole and whispers “Need any help in there?”

    • jimmy---chicago 2:34 pm on January 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I was born in 1970 most people who were born after that probably would not know who Holmes was and wonderland forget it try to bring up holmes to thirty somethings porn has exploded since then with movies going straight to dvd by the thousands movies being made in basements and motels everyware

    • localarts 6:03 pm on January 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Very true Jimmy. Last summer a group of people I was with we’re talking about Behind the Candelabra; this eventually led us to talking about Wonderland. Out of the 12 or 13 people that were there (friends of friends) I think only 4 people knew who John Holmes was including me. People forget an entire generation has passed and technology has come a long, long way.

      • criticextraordinaire 7:32 pm on January 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        We need to educate the younger generation about John Holmes and his contemporaries. Hopefully his body of work has been preserved in digital format and archived in one of those underground vaults.

        • jimmy---chicago 7:30 am on January 14, 2014 Permalink

          I am suprised holmes and linda lovelace never met up in film

    • Jill C. Nelson 8:05 am on January 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      They met up, just never in film.

      • jimmy---chicago 11:47 am on January 15, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Really I could not find anything that had them being in the same spot ever

    • Phil - Australia 10:41 pm on January 15, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Great site! Can’t get enough of it with so much detail on offer….what’s Eddie Nash up to these days? Have you seen him lately John or read anything about him and his whereabouts?…the proposed book ‘four on the floor’ by the two detectives is nowhere to be found…any word if it will ever be published….thanks heaps John.

    • localarts 10:38 am on January 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      That interview with Niles is the crown jewel of this forum, it’s the freak’in bomb!

  • John 10:43 am on January 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Niece Tells What Happened To Starwood Manager, Gary Fontenot 

    Gary Fontenot was the manager of the Starwood and worked for Eddie Nash. You got to read a lot about Gary via excerpts that I posted from Lee’s book about his life in Rock and working at the Starwood. Read those posts here.

    This is what Angie had to say about her uncle Gary:

    My uncle is (was) Gary Fontenot. I would love to know more about him.

    Yes, I knew him as the coolest Uncle I had. He would come to Louisiana and visit every couple of years and my parents would fly me up to Hollywood for vacations. I remember when I was young (about 12 years old) they took me to the Starwood to see the place. It was unbelievable to my eyes. The stuff I saw in Gary’s office, I can still see it in my mind. When I graduated from high school in 1982 I flew up there and stayed with Gary for two weeks ~ an incredible two weeks. He was so much fun and I miss him very much. Did you know he passed away in Honduras a few years ago? He was living there and he had a nighclub.

    From what I understand, Gary was on the run from the mafia and that is why he moved to Honduras. Before he fled he worked for Merrill Lynch and the word “embezzling” actually came up. In Honduras, Someone shot him one night (attempting to murder him) as he was leaving his club, but he survived. No money was taken from him so it wasn’t robbery. My Dad told me the mofia caught up with him. About a year later a blood clot from the gunshot wound broke free and killed him. Gary’s father who is (was) wealthy was too tight to spend the money to fly his body back to the States for a burial. Supposedly they threw his body on the side of a mountain like trash. I would love to know exactly what went down but I don’t even know where to start. My Dad who is his brother still talks about him all the time. The whole family misses him, he was iconic to all of us and he was so much fun to be around.

     
    • mark c 10:47 am on January 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Wow.. That was a sad ending.

  • John 8:46 am on January 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Candid Videos Of The Wonderland House 

    The pop group, LMFAO, have been featured on the blog before, since they lived in the Wonderland House about 4 or 5 years ago. I have not shared these particular videos however.

    In the following videos, you can see the interior of the house a bit better, the layout, etc. I could not find one of the backyard area.

    Warning: These guys are idiots.

    Something about that house has people half-dressed!

    And a video made out in the street:

     

     
    • criticextraordinaire 6:06 pm on January 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Man, I wish I lived n LA and had the money. I’d buy that house and restore it to its former glory, and run it as a Wonderland-themed B&B. 🙂

      • scabiesoftherat 11:22 pm on January 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I’d go to that. I wish they would have done that at Sharon Tate’s house instead of tearing the thing down.
        *******
        The guy in the middle video? Couldn’t you just picture Josh Lucas grabbing him by the shoulders and chucking him through the second floor window like he did with that stereo component? I could.

        Very, very easily….

    • Bobby 1:50 am on January 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Well John I must say, “these guys are idiots” is a MAJOR understatement! Have to agree with Scabies, but I’d have been real happy to hear that the ghost of Ron or Billy had kicked them down that stairwell.
      Sure would be real nice to see Critic’s dream come to life rather than having to witness these asshats desecrate this sacred site.
      Is it just me or does the taller guy (middle video) resemble John Holmes just a tiny little bit?.. same sorta jaw-line and teeth. Holmes however got more pussy than these two combined ever will 😉 They should just stick to dry humping doors, dressing in their ‘ironic’ 80’s clown costumes & producing shitty disposable dance music. Rant over.

      • criticextraordinaire 7:22 pm on January 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        “Asshat… out the window!”

    • localarts 2:59 pm on January 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Only those guy could have defaced 8763. Where are Holmes, Diles and the rest of the killers when you really need them!

  • John 1:36 pm on December 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply
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    Another British Documentary With Rare Footage 

    This is a different documentary that I have never seen before. It is not to be confused with the other British documentary that most of us have seen on YouTube. It is good resolution and very clear… and has great unseen footage and interviews. I was going to wait until Monday, but I have other stuff to post next week. The Wonderland stuff starts at about the 30 minute mark. Please post in the comments if you know anything about it.

    In this documentary, you get to see:

    • Video snippets of Eddie Nash walking around and being hounded by the press. That smirk is undeniable!
    • Alternate views of Eddie’s house- very good angles and views
    • Video of John being led out of court or jail in a parking lot in handcuffs
    • Prosecutor Ron Coen showing where Holmes bloody palm print was on the bed
    • More interviews with Det. Tom Blake
    • Interviews with who I think is Nash cohort and Holmes’ friend, Hal Glickman (who was a bail bondsman)
    • Pre-trial and trial footage from court
    • Talk of Holmes’ hunger strike while in jail on contempt charges. “He went on a hunger strike…and gained weight. He fasted between meals” –Ron Coen
    • Laurie Holmes talks about John’s mortal remains and how they were spread off the coast of Oxnard or Santa Catalina with his immediate family present
    • Warning! Nudity
     
    • Bobby 10:19 pm on December 20, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Just got through watching it – nice doco with lots of archival footage I’d never seen before. It was also great seeing Ron Coen showing the exact location of the hand print on Launius’s bed frame. No mention of David Lind though as they really wizzed through the Wonderland chapter. Regardless, a great find John!

    • Jill C. Nelson 5:11 pm on December 21, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      This is “XXXL: The John Holmes Story” released in the U.K in 2000. Lots of footage from “Exhausted” here. The documentary was/is not legally designated for release in the United States or Canada.

      “Holmes bloody palm print was on the bed.”
      Again, it’s important to note that the palm print was not bloody.

      • Ken D. 6:06 pm on December 21, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Yes Jill,you are correct….. Had the palm print been bloody Holmes most likely would not have beat the charges. During his trial his lawyers contended that with as much time as Holmes had spent in the house prior to the murders,it would not be unsusual at all for the palm print to be there and other places in the house. Had it been bloody,they would not have been able to argue this….

      • scabiesoftherat 1:05 am on December 24, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Two things struck me as being odd about this. Amerson says John went to his house covered in blood and Sharon says the same thing. I mean, which is it? Also, the palm print for the prosecution is/can be a carrot before the cart type deal when it comes to a jury. John was in that house so much, yet they decline to tell how many OTHER places his fingerprints/handprints were because to do so would knock the wind out of their sails, so to speak. That would be rather anti-climactic to a jury. Just a thought. (That, of course, is not to say that I think John was innocent. I just think holmes got damn lucky that the print WASN’T bloody….considering the amount of blood Amerson and Sharon said he had on him…if one or the other actually saw him that morning. They probably all went out to breakfast.)

        Just a thought.

        PS. That pinky ring on Tom Blake. LOL. What was the cameraman’s thought process about that one? LOL

        (“….must get shot of that ring before we leave,….the boys in editing won’t believe this….”)

        Sorry. I digress. That was the strangest camera shot of the whole documentary,….you know, except for when holmes stood up pulled his junk out in front of that woman. It was then that I thought, “Oh, shit,…this IS German TV.”

        Awesome documentary though. Wish I knew who the guy with the parrot on his head was. (Good Lord. Never, ever thought I would write a sentence like that.)

        • Ken D. 1:58 am on December 24, 2013 Permalink

          Bill Amerson is a well known bullshit artist so I would tend to think that it was him who was lying about a bloody John Holmes coming to his house that morning.

        • Jill C. Nelson 7:14 am on December 24, 2013 Permalink

          “Awesome documentary though. Wish I knew who the guy with the parrot on his head was.”

          That was Joel Sussman, a first rate photographer and one of Holmes’ closest friends.

        • criticextraordinaire 1:54 pm on December 24, 2013 Permalink

          I’d love to see Amerson do an interview for this blog. Heck, it would have to be a SERIES of interviews since he has so much material for sure. Joel Sussman would be another great interview and I’ll bet he would be willing. Something tells me that Amerson would want to be paid.

        • scabiesoftherat 11:44 pm on December 24, 2013 Permalink

          Thank you Ken and Jill for the answers to my questions. Much appreciated.
          PS. Good find, John. As usual.

          Holmes brother was pretty insightful in this doc.

    • criticextraordinaire 8:01 pm on December 21, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      First time I’ve seen this documentary. The things that struck me were:

      1. Amerson trying to swing that bat in the cage was a riot.

      2. Coen still can’t accept that he lost the case and that Holmes was found innocent.

      3. David Bowman comes off as a complete butt munch.

      4. “Here lady, let me show you my identification”

      5. There was the one scene where the porn distributor talked about Holmes saying that having sex with some random porn star “was real”. Lori then got a very odd look on her face, almost a look of betrayal like maybe John had told her that “it was real”. That was a sad scene.

    • Mark C 6:01 pm on December 25, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      In a strange way I think through so many years of all the very well published & known lies & bull stories told by John Holmes himself through out his whole life, This only adds greatly to more of the mystery of this story.

      Not only we got 1 huge unpunished unsolved multi person cold blooded murder case appears everybody even over seas are very interested in . Eddie was charged with Conspiracy to commit murder and not Capital Murder. I guess I might be wrong, But I feel its is still a open murder case on LA police record books, Thanks’ to John consent lying we have to work our way through all the huge collection of what really John told people and separate what was the real truth fact’s and what was a other one of his countless lies he was well known to tell.. Even without the multi-murder case on John’s record. I think John Holmes true life story could very well went down in history as he was one of the biggest and best liars this world ever known. Plus it would sell I think hugely at the box office.

      I am all for a movie about the real true life story of Ronnie Launius that hopefully will end in a shadow of a arm and pipe coming toward Ronnie head while he sound asleep..

      But come down to it. John Holmes true life story has never ever been put on film properly either . That Boogie Nights movie was just a movie that used only a small part of John life as a movie making idea and rest was made up. Wonderland a great movie in its own right but it only covered about a 1 year period in all these peoples life’s and not a long term life story of any of these people involved.
      This case could have at least 2 separate very good movies story’s here.. I think they should not be combine these peoples life story into 1 movie. Both Ronnie and John both deserve a movie based on each of there own true life story ..
      Even today I feel sure all the interest just in The John Holmes name you have a huge group of people waiting for his true life story movie to hit the big screen. We just have to face it John Holmes name collect interest in huge amount of the people not only in the USA, But world wide even today after 26 years after his death. It be very hard to even find a famous Hollywood Star that would draw all that much world wide attention after all these years.

      Well Eddie Nash has really got a very interesting true life story too.
      I feel sure they at least 2 maybe more very great true movie plots in these people who life’s came together very violently on a very hot summers night in 1981 in city of Angles .

      This give anybody any great ideas, Don’t forget about me now!! I sure could help out in some manner and sure could use just a few extra dollars throw my way if our dream would come true on these movies idea. Nope don’t know 1st thing about movie business but I am a fast learner.

      But this is just about a almost once in life time chance of finding 2 & maybe 3 people who true life stories would make such wonderful & great true life movies that are begging to be made.

      • criticextraordinaire 12:13 pm on December 27, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Mark, I too would like to see a movie about Ronnie, but I’d prefer that it end just as he and the guys are leaving Eddie’s place, basking in their moment of (short-lived) triumph. Kind of a Butch-and-Sundance feel to it.

        I can actually see the final shot. It is a freeze frame where you see Ronnie busting out the door at Dona Lola, looking like the cat that ate the canary; he’s slightly out of focus. Meanwhile, Eddie is in the background, sharp focus, with a look on his face that unmistakably portends the rest of the story. Roll the credits and the epilogue text.

        • mark c 8:24 pm on December 28, 2013 Permalink

          criticextraordinaire I think you completely correct that would be a so much better ending for a Ronnie movie. Anybody served in Vietnam I always have the upmost very high regard for them. Lot of them guys when through a non-sleep 1 whole year nightmare that stays with them even today. I personally seen couple times what happens during them guys having flashbacks, Not a pretty site to see at all without going into much detail.

          In Army supply Ronnie just might had to fill some tanks or bombs with agent orange or was standing right there supervising it to keep track of the gallons used.. You never really know the true process unless you was there.
          Armed services are famous for what is it they call it ? something like SASFU or something like that. not a too pretty name that explains there daily grind.
          But I feel the wonderland gang know who they was going to hit before hand. They just didn’t care or thought they could pull it off without major paybacks, I think I read they was moving elsewhere right after the heist anyway. I blame Holmes and his big line of BS for that mistake. Holmes wanted all the money & drugs but he sure made sure he would not be right there involved in the heist itself. He sat home with the girls . Mr. Lind just don’t want to get more any more dirty than he already was..
          I feel sure Holmes made a key to that security gate for Wonderland House too.. More than likely within the first 5 minutes he first had a key to the gate, before they took it back away from him, I guess for smoking all that dope he smoked and he didn’t pay for. Plus all of Ronnie’s “Scum Bag Tax” . added up too.
          I like that part about one of Holmes porn pal’s talking about Holmes telling people all the degrees he got from UCLA. The Closest Holmes ever got to UCLA was stealing stereos out of cars in the parking lot.
          Nothing on TV tonight, I am going to watch Wonderland again!!

        • criticextraordinaire 8:25 am on December 29, 2013 Permalink

          Well Mark, Johnny could not have gone on the actual Nash invasion. Eddie and Greg knew John so he would have been dead meat had he been there. (Although it ended up that way anyway, due to John wearing the jewelry the next day) The only way John could have participated in the actual invasion would be if they had agreed to kill Eddie.

          Eddie didn’t know Ronnie, David, or Billy, which was odd given their alpha-dog status in the dope business at the time. John did go to Eddie’s THREE TIMES to make sure the sliding door was left unlocked for the guys though, so he certainly was an active participant in the heist, albeit in a clandestine role.

          I can’t help but think that if they were doing the heist today, Tracy would have been driving a stolen SUV instead of that clapped-out Granada, and there would have been plenty of room for John to have waited with him in the car.

          Whenever John smoked up that shipment he was supposed to deliver for the gang, I’ll bet Ronnie was absolutely furious. Due to Ronnie’s extensive experience in the Air Force logistics command, he knew this was going to throw off the production and inventory numbers, and he already had enough headaches managing his supply chain. Big mistake for Johnny.

    • localarts 1:01 pm on December 27, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I can see this. Of course you would have to include the Lind & Deverell.

      • criticextraordinaire 4:48 pm on December 27, 2013 Permalink | Reply

        Oh absolutely. That was likely a big part of the dynamic. Ronnie and David each doing the Nash hit trying to prove just how bad ass each were. And Billy pretty much had to go along on the job after all that big talk he and Tracy said about “going it alone” on the job.

        David might be a good subject for a flick too, what with his various brushes with famous people and situations. There’s still a small part of me that thinks he went into the WPP though.

        • John 10:50 am on December 28, 2013 Permalink

          In the movie about Ronnie flick, you could have his character played by Ryan Gosling, that way women and teenage girls would go see it. Ron could break the fourth wall by winking at the camera at the end of key scenes, like a classic or bad Burt Reynolds comedy.

        • criticextraordinaire 11:18 am on December 28, 2013 Permalink

          Well that approach could work, John… if the movie is done like “Goodfellas” and is told from Ronnie’s perspective. Occasionally the scene can stop and Ronnie offers his insight. “We got it all… the dope, the money, the guns. We had Johnny Wadd literally hanging out at our place. Even the vaunted Eddie Nash was on his knees to us. We ruled the world…”

          I’d like to see Suge Knight play the role of Greg Diles. Cast Owen Wilson in the role of Holmes. I’ve got to think about the rest of the cast. For Ronnie I always wanted to go with Joe Elmore, the guy on Horsepower TV.

        • switzerland avenue 3:21 am on December 31, 2013 Permalink

          I would love to see a wonderland movie done in the way of “gone baby gone”. No famous actors, but capable of expressing the real side of drug consuming and trafficking. For the bigger budget version: Daniel Day-Lewis as Nash and send Paul Giamatti to that damn mask and let him do holmes’ last years…

    • localarts 6:25 pm on December 27, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Unfortunately, there’s not a lot of information about Lind. He may very well have been in the WPP. I know he went into hiding immediately after spilling his guts to Lange and Souza, Lind was picked up a month later by the LAPD.

      I can definitely see the Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid angle, especially at the end. I would much rather see Ronnie go out in a hail of gun fire with the LAPD like Newman & Redford did at the end of the movie as opposed to having his brains beaten out of his skull while he was asleep. As Ronne & David burst out of the front door of Nash’s with Deverell not far behind, jefe de la policía (Daryl Gates) and the rest of the LAPD open fire and the rest is history!

    • russell White 12:19 am on December 29, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      Great new info John. Not sure how you are doing it, but I am blown away! I have been online for 10 years and never heard one bit about the dogs. Also, did you find out if Susan is still alive. When I talked to Nils last year, he did not know but doubted, based on her health.

    • localarts 1:29 pm on December 31, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      I can only imagine what the New Years Eve parties were like at Wonderland! It would probably take at least a week to recover.

    • Jude Falu 1:58 am on October 25, 2016 Permalink | Reply

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