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  • John 10:06 am on September 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

    The Kit Kat Club In 1976 

    Thanks to Antoine for the heads up.

    The Kit Kat Club was featured in an episode of Barnaby Jones in 1976. The actor who played the guy with the horse head from The Godfather is in this as well. I wonder if Barnaby fired off his old peacemaker at the end of the episode as he solved the case? He always did.

    Antoine says:

    I stumbled on an old episode of the TV show Barnaby Jones from 1976 and to my shock the Kit Kat Club in Hollywood was in it. A very good shot of the outside and inside. It was easy to find searching the Hollywood Welding on Google (which is seen in the background). Its still there. Kit Kat Club was on Santa Monica and N Hudson Ave. A Honda car dealership is there now.

    Lunch -- Dinner

    Lunch — Dinner

    and the complete episode, the footage starts at about the 29:00 minute mark:


  • John 10:01 am on August 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    More From Jerry Vann’s Book… 

    Jerry is quite a character, obviously. You can read more by ordering his book here at Amazon.

    It was easy back then (late 70s/early 80s) to use stolen credit cards, because there was no swiper machine or computers. This was one of their biggest scams it appears. The clerk ran carbons of the card, the old fashioned way. On big ticket items like jewelry, they may call the credit company, but if the stolen card was fresh and not yet reported, it was all clear to buy stuff with.

    Again, Greg is Jerry’s friend (it’s not Greg Diles) and Tony is Nash underling, Anthony Mudarris. The Nash attorney, Mr. Blaish, is still around LA doing business… from a few Google searches.



    In the following scene, Jerry and Greg had been nailed at a mall using stolen credit cards to buy a watch. They tried to make a run for it but were caught, since they were both out of shape. Jerry was also in trouble at this time because he had been arrested for firing a gun in the air or towards D.A. investigators who had been watching him.

    Famous bail bondsman, Hal Glickman, also makes a cameo. Hal is deceased (about 10 years I believe). His wife, Dottie, who allegedly picked up Holmes that night, died of breast cancer on New Year’s Eve in 1997. Their son, who later took over the family bail biz, has not yet responded to my emails and FB messages requesting an interview.

    In the end, in my opinion, Nash had money and connections, he could even order a hit if he wanted. But he was really just a wealthy coke-head, pulling extracurricular scams, arsons and frauds for quick cash. He chased women day and night. To me, Nash was a slick wiseguy who used others to insulate himself from the crimes. Pure Nash.


    • Miranda 3:45 pm on August 19, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      To those of you who think you are strange, I must also be! I find true crime interesting. I read up on different cases and this is one I have read into some about the dynamics of persons involved. Crazy how different they were yet drugs brought them all together. I have heard before that if you do drugs or get into the drug culture you will find others who are on the same track.

    • Stacey Jane Lind Ferraro 7:38 pm on August 27, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Only the picture on the far right is David Clay Lind I should know he is my dad.I was looking for pictures of him too and can not find any youg ones but I saw him from ’92 to 94 .

      • Pepe 4:25 pm on September 6, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Were you visiting in Santa Rosa?

      • Anon4Now 8:33 am on September 6, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        There was a Cassie Lind who used to post on another board. I found out later that board wasn’t a Lions Gate board though the posters there claimed it was. Who knows, but the Sacramento detectives that worked Lind and other of his contemporary paid informants caused much havoc with their type of police “tactics.”

        Problems with this type of police work is the perps are really the victims and it’s really impossible for them to ever escape the system. The snitches that they turn out eventually are disenchanted, too, but for them it’s all too late.

        If you’re really one of Lind’s daughters, you should remember a couple of his Sacramento friends. Brad, maybe?

        • John 12:48 pm on September 8, 2014 Permalink

          Thanks Anon. I am writing a chapter for the book about the use of police informants in the 1970s. It was a different era, and like vice cops today, informants and snitches were an important part of their investigation, however sketchy… legally… those tactics are….

      • John 10:12 am on September 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Hi Stacey,

        Thanks for visiting the blog. I am John. I am writing a book about the Wonderland Murders.

        I would like to interview you sometime about your dad. Very little is known about him. I have only found what little I know about him thru background checks, and they can be erroneous sometimes.

        Please email me back! wonderland1981blog at gmail.com


        • Hymie 3:34 pm on September 6, 2014 Permalink

          What would you like to know?

    • localarts 8:27 pm on September 3, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Lee Meriwether was beyond hot!

      • criticextraordinaire 5:48 am on September 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Ms. Meriwether is still hot.

        • Bobby 8:19 am on September 12, 2014 Permalink

          I believe they call that ‘prunetang’.

        • criticextraordinaire 7:41 pm on September 17, 2014 Permalink

          I’d still hit it…

    • localarts 12:13 pm on September 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply


  • John 3:17 pm on August 4, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Excerpts From Jerry Vann’s Book “Underworld Secrets…” 

    Since Eddie Nash is not dead (confirmed by fellow club owner Chris Cox, it appears), then I will leave you with some Nash quotes from Jerry Vann’s book “Underworld Secrets: Jimmy Hoffa to Las Vegas”. Jerry Vann (Van Hoorelbeke?) is an interesting character and I should like to track him down for an interview one day.

    It appears that Eddie Nash is upset here about Jerry’s friend, Greg (not Greg Diles) – and his visits to Nash’s strip club. Greg is hurting business!


    On this page, the “Tony” character is Anthony Mudarris, who was indicted with Nash for money laundering and RICO stuff in 2000. Jerry paints himself well in the book, even saving a stripper girl who Tony had tossed down a hillside. It appears that Jerry & company also liked to use stolen / fake credit cards to buy jewelry and other valuables, but that is in another chapter I will post later. In even another chapter Jerry is frightened to death of Eddie’s heroin smugglers in Hawaii, even thinking he might die during the exchange as intermediary.


    • localarts 4:59 pm on August 5, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Ed had everybody in his pocket. I wonder how many son’s & daughter’s of the LAPD brass he put through college? Eddie Nash truly was the God Father of LA during that period of time. I would not at all be surprised if Nash was doing business with the Chagra brothers back in the 70’s & 80″s.

      • Sean 4:11 am on August 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Happy 70th birthday to John Holmes. Was he not dead for the past 27 years.

      • Sean 4:46 pm on August 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Happy 70th birthday to John C. Holmes! Was he not dead for the past 26 and a half years.

      • Mike 8:29 pm on August 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I’m a lone voice in the wilderness here, but I don’t believe for a minute that LAPD brass, or those of LASD for that matter, were paid off by Nash. I believe that the fed investigator was – I believe this is known. I also think that a high city official surely was involved, but the the local police brass (and I’m aware of what Lang and his partner said about a hidden hand seeming to steer them away)? No way.

    • Ken 9:54 pm on August 5, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Yep…..up till the whole WONDERLAND incident Nash was pretty much considered to be the “King of Hollywood” but once it became known that he did order the killings everybody he had paid off in the past weren’t there for him anymore….

      • localarts 10:46 am on August 11, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        That’s probably true. I think one glaring aspect that people tend to overlook is Nash controlled a lot people out of fear.

    • jim 9:58 pm on August 17, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      the king of Hollywood who ever heard of eddie nash before wonderland and by the way the Chicago outfit controlled things there any way at that time tony spilatro was more known as a menace to authoritory than nash he probably was paying off the outfit if he was as big as reported he would have to

      • Ken 12:56 pm on August 18, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Nash was VERY well known in the Los Angeles area in the late 60’s and all through the 70’s.

        The Outfit’s reach never extended westward from Chicago past the hotel casinos that they owned in Las Vegas and even the New York mob that did have a limited amount of control in Los Angeles most of that was back in the 40’s till the early 60’s.

        Carlo Gambino once made the statement that he could probably count the number of “Made Guys” tthat were on the west coast on one hand.

        • localarts 6:43 pm on August 19, 2014 Permalink

          The fact Eddie is still alive say’s it all.

    • jim 10:50 pm on August 24, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      well the west coast mob was known as the mickey mouse mob and Chicago had everything west of the Mississippi sorry if I never herd of nash but out of all the true crime books I’ve read never came across him and its been published in many books that tony accardo did everything he could to stop the guy in LA from ever achieving anything he thought he was a clown according to FBI agent Bill Rohmer man against the mob book

    • localarts 10:59 am on August 25, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Eddie Nash was a crime figure not a crime boss per say. Nash was a legitimate business owner as well as a drug lord. There was no criminal structure (hierarchy) as is the case with most traditional mafia families. Eddie Nash was simply Eddie Nash. Nash had power and influence. The extent of which is debatable.

      • The Odyssey 11:52 pm on August 28, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Eddie Nash outlived everybody and made 30 million dollars in 2008 selling the Seven Seas building. He is/was the King Of Hollywood. Don’t care what. Anybody says.

        • loon432 8:14 pm on December 14, 2014 Permalink

          How much is Tony mudarris worth today? And what other businesses does he own besides strip clubs

        • John 11:03 am on January 5, 2015 Permalink

          I believe Tony owned an auto body shop also, or a few of them. This would be good for making phony car insurance scams via staged accidents.

      • jim 9:56 pm on August 31, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Perfecto localarts

        • The Odyssey 12:34 am on September 17, 2014 Permalink

          Tony Mudarris daughter Nikki is on Love and Hip Hop Hollywood on Vh1

    • James DelCol 8:05 am on December 22, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      This is some pretty outrageous stuff. This shows the inner working of Nash’s power. He had all kinds of people on his payroll. I never thought it ran that deep. Although Mickey Cohen (When he was in LA) had Chief Justice Earl Warren in his pocket. Amazing! Mickey Cohen was the only person ever bailed out of Alcatraz. This shows you what money can do. Nash was in deep and had balls of steel. Imagine what it would take for the average Joe to buy a cop? Most people can’t get out of a traffic summons let alone get bounced out of a jail like Alcatraz. It makes me wonder if Chief Justice Warren’s mob ties helped along JFK’s assassination investigation.

  • John 9:42 am on July 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    BeeGees Capture Street Imagery Of Fabulous Motel Row 

    We hit 500,000 page views this week ;-)

    In July, 1981 – John Holmes and his girl, Dawn, had fled to Miami, ending up at the Fountainhead Inn. During this time it was considered not-so Fabulous Motel Row. It’s heyday was over…. well today, I found this video for the BeeGees, only released 10 years ago, and it has background street life and neon signs of Motel Row from a few years before Holmes was there…”Most of these motels are now closed…” etc. A great time capsule!  Anyways, you get to see what it looked like at night in 1978.


    A music video was made for the song in 1978, but not shown to the public until 2004. It features the brothers singing the song in a darkened studio, layered over background video filmed while driving along “Motel Row” on Collins Avenue, a three-mile motel strip in what is now Sunny Isles Beach, Florida. Most of these motels are now closed or demolished, including several whose names are reminiscent of Las Vegas resorts (Castaways, Desert Inn, Sahara, Golden Nugget).

    • localarts 9:00 am on July 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      It took me a long to realize how great these guys were. “Nights on Broadway” is a great song as well.

      • Jacob Bartle 9:05 am on July 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Eddie Nash died July 4th (two weeks ago) surprised no news here.

        • John 9:49 am on July 28, 2014 Permalink

          Jacob, thanks. Do you have a link to share? I could find nothing.

        • localarts 3:47 pm on July 29, 2014 Permalink

          Wrong! Eddie is the Prince of Darkness…..he will never die.

        • John 12:44 pm on August 4, 2014 Permalink

          It appears so, he’s immortal.

    • London 4:57 pm on July 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Hi John. you are very close. i grew up a couple of houses up the street from where this happened. I was almost 12 when it occurred. everybody in the house was pretty cool to me. use to give me rides to the country store or pick me up if i was walking.

      • John 9:43 am on July 28, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks London. Please tell some stories if you can? Thanks.

    • localarts 4:45 pm on July 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      “We hit 500,000 page views this week” Congratulations John. Did you ever think this site would attract such an audience?

    • Mark C 9:57 pm on July 31, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Anybody find out for sure if Eddie Nash died July 4th?? Or is it a internet rumor ??
      I searched could not find out nothing.
      Hey Eddie !!!!! You still on here with your snuggles with built in booties on, kick back on easy chair with TV tray & lap top in front of you??
      I still say that would make my day if we ever track a ISP # back to Ole Nash himself on here enjoying reading about himself.
      One tough guy, He got to be, he about out lived all his old friends. He appears to did enough right heath wise to of made it this long.

      • chris cox 11:24 pm on July 31, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        he is still with us.

      • localarts 5:55 pm on August 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        If it’s true, I find it very difficult to believe there is no mention of it in the press. Especially someone as notorious as Nash. I actually remember when Eddie was charged with the Wonderland murders back in 88-89 and it was all over the papers. Maybe Jacob Bartel is a.k.a Eddie Nash? LOL.

    • rimbaudgirl 3:43 am on August 3, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I dont know if it means much but wikipedia says nash died july 4…i know they often get things wrong but arent the dates of birth and death usually right?

    • localarts 11:49 am on August 3, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      If Adel Nasrallah took a dirt nap, it would have come across the AP wire at some point.

    • bigwick70 5:30 am on January 24, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Does anyone have any info on how Ronnie and Billy Deverell met? I have looked everywhere I can think and can’t find anything. This story is just so fasinating. Ever since seeing the Movie (by accident) i have been hooked. Would really like to see another one made with more info on the players lives instead of just the murders. Thanks

    • bigwick70 6:06 am on January 24, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      I know this is a little off topic but i remember the 80,s, though I was only 11 in 1981. I thought Donna Summer was the sexiest woman alive even at that age lol

  • John 4:56 pm on July 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Chuck Negron Performs @ July 4th Festival 07/05/81 

    A few days before this concert, he was at Wonderland.

    This was at Long Beach. Other groups which performed at this event were the Beach Boys and Pablo Cruise.

    This one’s for Joy!!

    • Bobby 8:28 am on July 4, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      No doubt Chuck would’ve sped over to the Wonderland house as soon as he got paid for that gig! ;p
      So, does anybody know if the Three Dog Night record at the crime scene was a gift from Chuck (possibly as an exchange for a discount on dope) or was it already in Joy & Billy’s collection? Such a weird coincidence that it was the ‘one’ (boom-boom!) sleeve that ended up getting splattered in blood! What a morbid collector’s item akin to the album Lennon signed for Mark Chapman. Chuck & Julia must’ve freaked when they learnt about that – really spooky synchronicity considering they nearly went over to the house on that fateful night!

      • Bobby 8:39 am on July 4, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Er, slight addendum: Guess he wasn’t speeding over to the Wonderland house as I just realised that this concert was a few days after the murders… BUT, had this been before.. LOL – I think y’know what I was getting at… :)
        Hmm, wonder who he started scoring off at this stage?…

        • criticextraordinaire 5:54 pm on July 4, 2014 Permalink

          Yeah I kinda wonder that too. The Wonderland Gang’s Wikipedia page describes them as “most influential and feared cocaine distributorship of its time in Los Angeles”. I’ve got to think the next few months saw shortages for customers and turf wars by other dealers trying to carve up the territory.

    • scabiesoftherat 9:22 pm on July 4, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      This is a really stellar find, John. Great post. I can’t help but wonder what was going through Chuck’s mind while he was performing here. He seems completely at ease up there. He had to have known about it at this point. It was all over the news. If it were me, I would be scanning the wings looking for cops who were waiting to talk to me about my affiliation with such a questionable residence…but not Chuck, man! He’s out there killin’ it in his own right!…and, not to mention, he’s on the same bill with Dennis “i-lived-with-Manson” Wilson of the Beach Boys. The only thing that could make that bill better would be to have Mark Lindsay do a set. Great video. It’s now in my favorites list. (Geez. I never would have known that was a Three Dog Night album next to the couch had it not been for this blog.) That makes this performance even more serendipitous. Just a side observation about this video? You know it’s 1981 when the lead singer of a pop music combo comes out wearing a striped polo shirt that happens to be tucked in,…AND you know it’s 1981 when a girl in the crowd pulls a pack of Marlboro 100s out her cleavage. You can get a ticket for BOTH of those offenses nowadays.

      • John 2:57 pm on July 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I tried to see if he had track marks on his arms, but no luck. He is 6’3 or 4….so in this vid he must weight a buck fifty! Maybe less.

  • John 9:04 am on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Eddie Nash Filed Civil Rights Lawsuit Against L.A. In 2007 

    In the lawsuit, Ed was suing three district attorneys of L.A. for violation of his civil rights. But I couldn’t really find too much on this case, or if it was thrown out, settled, etc.

    Under this law, a citizen can sue the individuals involved who worked for the state, but not the state itself. A company is listed as plaintiff as well, so must be something business-related?

    I will reach out to his civil attorney in the case to ask if I can interview Ed sometime. Through his lawyer, Eddie told Jill who wrote the Holmes book that he would “sleep on it” but then said “No” on the following Monday. I would really like to do a chapter on his early life, more than anything.

    The details:

    Nature of Suit: Civil Rights: Other
    Cause of Action: 42:1983 Civil Rights Act

    Every person who under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, Suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable.  For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

    The number of cases that have been brought under section 1983 has dramatically increased since 1961 when the Supreme Court decided Monroe v. Pape.  In Monroe, the Supreme Court held that a police officer was acting “under color of state law” even though his actions violated state law.  This was the first case in which the Supreme Court allowed liability to attach where a government official acted outside the scope of the authority granted to him by state law.

    Here’s his civil case summary.

    • Mark C 6:57 pm on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Nash really did live The American Dream story pretty good himself. It be great to get his true “early life” story and that all. I am not trying to reduce what he did or they say he did to family of Wonderland Victims or anybody else,
      He may be a little bitter about the Wonderland part of his life because he lost a very lot not including the money during that part of his life. Going to jail is no cake walk for anybody. It be something I would not be too eager to talk about myself. But Eddie got where Judge was impressed so much with him that he allowed Eddie out of jail early to get the proper medical treatment he needed to save his life. With out proper medical treatment Eddie could be right now 6 foot under like so many in this case.

      • RAW DOPE BMORE 5:19 pm on July 13, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        ive interviewed nash believe it or not, i got his number on 411.com i paid $2.00 but what the hell i mean this is the “NASH” for heavens sake. but i spoke with his daughter first she was very pleasant and i asked her if she could give him my number and ask her to call and low and behold nomore than 10 minutes later he called under a blocked number and i was very excited, he told me about when they arrested him and that he volunteered in mentoring drug programs all throughout california and that its hard getting old and that hes been clean since his last jail stint and that john holmes was a 2 faced lying rat who was not to be trusted and that he was a coward and he used him to drive his female friends home when he was finish with them and that holmes did so willingly for a single rock of base.and he also said that hes just living in infamy now and thats not him anymore and that if he had to do it over again he wouldnt have ever befriended john holmes and this was about 3 years ago when i called his home oh btw i asked about greg diles and also about life in palestine and he got really edgy and said he might call me back later he was tired and he got his number changed in about a week but luckily i got to meet one of my icons and i thank god for that alot. i guess he probably thought i was paparazzi or the feds but im just a fan of the way he ruled cali with a iron fist and how much money he accumilated without ever blowing his cover as a kingpin he was making more legit money than illegal money my hero

    • criticextraordinaire 9:03 am on July 4, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      An interview with Eddie would be a huge, massive score. I would not expect to get any revelations about the Wonderland hit per se, but he certainly could shine a light on some of the now-deceased players, and perhaps offer some never-before-heard details of the assault on him and Gregory Diles. Your blog takes a very professional approach to the whole story, so maybe Eddie will see your invitation as a way to finally tell his story to somebody who will not sensationalize it or twist it.

      The only version of that story that we hear is the narrative provided by Lind, whose credibility is, uh, *questionable*. We need to hear the other side of the story.

      Would also be great to get Eddie’s take on what it was like to hang out and party with Johnny Wadd, and did he have access to any of John’s costars..

      • Bobby 9:56 am on July 4, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Couldn’t agree more! It would be great to hear Nash chime in on other aspects of his life unrelated to the murders. I’m guessing he wouldn’t be interested in talking to anyone but who knows, if he was made aware that an objective book was being written about the case he might agree to an interview – sans any deathbed-seque confession of course! Not holding my breath though.

  • John 2:42 pm on June 26, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    The Last Stop For John Holmes 

    John Holmes died on March 13, 1988. You can read about the VA hospital here at the blog. It’s now a part-time movie set, and the other half of the hospital is out-patient only for veterans.

    According to his death certificate:

    Two days later, John’s mortal remains were cremated here at the Chapel of the Pines Crematory, just west of downtown L.A. His ashes were spread at sea just off the coast of Oxnard, CA.

    This nice domed structure looks like an observatory, and was built in 1903. Although their website claims “the final resting place for the cremains for a number of notable persons”, most of them are obscure (to me) old timey actors from before 1950. The only name that jumped out at me was Stephen Stucker. He played Johnny in the Airplane movies. Stephen died of AIDS in 1986, two years before John Holmes.

    1605 South Catalina Street, Los Angeles

    1605 South Catalina Street, Los Angeles

    John was probably delivered through this service entrance to the receiving area/back door. Note the creepy looking smokestacks.

    Service entrance

    Service entrance

    • mark c 3:09 pm on June 26, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      If them smokestacks could talk they sure have lot to say.

      • John 8:03 am on June 27, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I guess this is where Laurie Holmes made the final inspection of John, seeing his remains all “intact”, and allowing the mortician to proceed with the cremation. John did not want it in a jar on a shelf, at some rich pervert’s house.

        • criticextraordinaire 7:58 am on June 28, 2014 Permalink

          “The Last Viewing of John C. Holmes”… would make a nice title for a PBS production about the King. His story should be on the “American Masters” series.

    • localarts 10:15 am on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      On this date, way way back when. John Holmes would trade-in his crack pipe for a lead pipe and the rest is history..

      • John 11:29 am on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        At about this time, 33 years ago (9:26am PST), Lind had just left the Wonderland house, Ron was back with Susan at the house chilling, and I guess Joy and Billy were fencing goods to Fat Howard. I guess Barbara was reading her book. In about 5 hours, Holmes would be picked up at his answering service in Santa Monica by Diles and company, and hauled over to Nash’s (or he went to Nash’s on his own, if you like that theory). Whichever, but some shit was about to go down in the city of angels.

    • localarts 12:01 pm on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I like the latter theory. Remember, Chris Cox showed up at Eddies that afternoon (after the robbery) and saw Holmes standing by the bar. I completely agree with Nils ” Holmes didn’t need a whole lot of persuading” If Diles “beat the hell out of him” as Thorson stated, John Holmes would not have showed up at the hotel with just blood shoot eyes as Dawn would later say.

      While many of the investigators who worked or were in some fashion close to this case believe Holmes murdered Ron Launius, I believe Holmes actually murdered one of the women. Holmes was just too frightened of Ron Launius, even if he was passed out. Besides, John Holmes had a history of violence against women.

      • criticextraordinaire 8:05 pm on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I doubt that John killed anybody, except maybe for those two guys that it is alleged that he accidentally killed while filming a scene in a gay loop.

    • localarts 10:06 pm on June 30, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      You’re a fan, of course you believe he didn’t kill anybody.

      • CynFin 9:00 pm on July 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I have so many questions. Didn’t John’s wife say that he was covered in blood and she helped him to wash bone fragments and bits of flesh from his hair in a bath the morning after the murders? Hmmm . . . seems logical to me that John got close and personal. This was NOT a shootout. Also, if Ron was such a “killer”, are there any theories about why he allowed Nash and Diles to live after the robbery? Surely, Nash was not the only drug connection in the area. Unless the gang was just so high and ego driven that they planned to go back . . . . to do it again and again? Nash and Diles should be 1981 history.

        • localarts 10:51 pm on July 2, 2014 Permalink

          Yeah, I think Nils Grevillius said Sharon told him it was pieces of bone and brain matter that covered his hair. According to David Lind, Ron Launius had a knife to Diles throat and started to cut him but Lind intervened and persuaded Ronnie to stop. Launius may well have killed Nash & Diles had Lind not been there. As it turns out, Ron Launius was far more dangerous than I initially thought.

          Eddie Nash was not the only drug connection in town but he was the biggest. Everybody who was involved in drugs and or drug trafficking knew who Eddie Nash was. The people on Wonderland Avenue knew who Eddie Nash was long before they met John Holmes.

          It’s my opinion that they never planned on robbing Eddie Nash and this is the reason why:
          John Holmes needed the Wonderland gang & the Wonderland gang needed John Holmes. Holmes associated with the gang to feed his cocaine habit. The Wonderland gang were heroin addicts & Nash would become their main supplier via John Holmes.

          Tracy McCourt testified that “china white” aka heroin was hard to come by and there wasn’t a lot of it around. This is the reason they kept Holmes around. Sure they may have humiliated him and thought he was a complete joke but they needed him.

          This arrangement they set up with Holmes & Nash (ferrying stolen merchandise and cash in exchange for heroin) had been going on some 4 to 6 months prior to the murders. They could have robbed Nash right after befriending Holmes but they didn’t because Nash was their main supplier of Heroin and most importantly this was EDDIE NASH.

          It was only after the issue with the antique guns that things got out of hand. When Billy Deverell gave Holmes the money to get the antique guns out of hock for lack of a better word, Holmes instead used that money to buy more drugs so of course Nash wasn’t going to give the guns back. Holmes solution to getting the guns back? Rob Eddie Nash.

          I think Billy was so pissed off at Holmes he didn’t care Tracy McCourt I believe was naive about the matter. Ron Launius I believe had serious reservations about this as did David Lind. McCourt would testify that everybody except Billy and himself had backed out. Launius deferred to Linds opinion. David Lind testified ‘he didn’t like it” Contrary to Linds testimony that he didn’t know it was Nash they were robbing, clearly he did. I think both Lind & Launius knew this wasn’t just your run of the mill residential robbery.

          Whatever ultimately caused the Wonderland gang to go over the cliff so to speak will never be known. What we do know is Holmes played both sides against each other and the results were catastrophic!!!

          Okay, I’m done now.

        • cjfinister@charter.net 12:32 am on July 3, 2014 Permalink

          Thank you. So, you feel that Nash was the ONLY heroin supplier in Los Angeles and this is why Ron Launius allowed him to live? I can’t even begin to sort the logic in this. Rob a man, maybe kill a man about guns/money . . . . and then stop because he’s your dealer? The ONLY dealer? I think they knew very well who he was and were high when they did it. Didn’t John have to go to Nash’s house three (3) times to make sure the door was still unlocked because everyone in Wonderland was slammed and couldn’t get up for the morning invasion? Scary stuff.

          On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Wonderland1981 – The Wonderland Murders wrote:

          localarts commented: “Yeah, I think Nils Grevillius said Sharon told him it was pieces of bone and brain matter that covered his hair. According to David Lind, Ron Launius had a knife to Diles throat and started to cut him but Lind intervened and persuaded Ronnie to stop. Laun”

        • criticextraordinaire 7:11 pm on July 7, 2014 Permalink

          Oh I think she’s credible. If only she had saved some of the bone fragments and brain matter in that gold-plated foot locker of John’s that she ultimately burned.

        • criticextraordinaire 9:08 am on July 4, 2014 Permalink

          I think John’s wife said that a mob guy ended up dead in her house and a prominent LAPD cop made the body disappear for her too.

        • CynFin 9:54 pm on July 6, 2014 Permalink

          Is John’s wife credible? Or . . . crazy?

    • Mark C 7:47 am on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Today is the day 33 years ago. Nash and could be Holmes revenge if you buy the story Ronnie & Billy was mean to Holmes.
      Personal I think Holmes was too busy taking very good care of Holmes own personal greed to care about what others said.
      The excuse’s started to come out after he was in jail and sober up,

    • localarts 8:40 am on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      No matter how you look at this, everything leads back to John Holmes.

    • Mark C 6:24 pm on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I think you right localarts, Any way you look at it the road keep coming directly back to Holmes himself.
      Not he did all the killing’s himself without help. Swing the pipe? Just myself & only today because this 33 years ago today. I sure don’t want start World War 3 on here not my goal, everybody welcome to there own opinion’s respectfully , But I think he took swing or two or he would been laying there with the Wonderland Gang for everybody to find. I like story they made him walk part the way back to his car or phone booth covered in blood. That sound just like what Nash and/or Greg would do to him after they even found him wearing jewelry that was stolen only day or 2 before from The Nash.
      He had to been a major player in this sad event.
      Nash goon’s could not get access to Wonderland home without Holmes help, Really I am surprised Holmes was not put out of his misery with Wonderland Gang. That my main reason they allowed him to live. If they allow him walk away after open the door what would stop him from calling police, that story don’t make any sense to myself. Just like Holmes every action really happened got 3 or more lye’s to figure out trying to find out the real truth.
      I often wonder if The Nash don’t sneak on here and read little bit, Be great track down a IP Address directly back to The Nash, That make my day.

      • localarts 8:20 pm on July 1, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        “I often wonder if The Nash don’t sneak on here and read little bit, Be great track down a IP Address directly back to The Nash, That make my day”
        LOL. I bet Eddie is lying on his sofa in Tarzana in his snuggie, a tv tray and a Mac Book pro and reading all of our post’s!

    • localarts 11:45 am on July 7, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      “Is John’s wife credible? Or . . . crazy?” It depends on who you talk to. I myself never believed Holmes killed anybody until it was reveled that Sharon told James Cox in private that she believed John committed at least one of the murders himself. Sharon made that statement in 2002, over 20 years after the fact. There was nothing for her to gain by lying about this and almost everybody we know to be associated with the slayings was dead by then. You have to understand, Sharon stood face to face with John within an hour or so of the murders and she knew him better than anybody.

      I’ve always suspected that Sharon knew more than she ever let on.

    • Jill C. Nelson 8:33 am on July 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Sharon may or may not have known more than she let on. The problem with Sharon’s credibility is that she made contrasting statements over the years — from admitting to detectives that she did not have any knowledge about what had transpired at the Wonderland house (in 1981), to a story where John crawled directly into bed with bloody clothes the morning following the murders (in 1988). There is the infamous “bathtub confession” account in which she described to filmmaker Cass Paley (in 1998) how John had taken a bath in her home the morning of the murders and told her how he’d been forced to go to the Wonderland house by Nash and his thugs and watch (depicted in the Wonderland movie). Sharon shared a different version of events when she described to the press in 1988 that within the comfort of his bath several days after the murders, John confided the sequences of events to her. In that version, there is no mention made of Holmes coming to her home on July 1st.

      Slightly off topic: Sharon said in 1998 that no one had known Holmes had a wife until she put it out to the press in 1988 after John’s passing. In July 1981, after John’s arrest, Sharon was interviewed by the L.A. Times and disclosed their marriage, though she could have forgotten about this disclosure through the passage of time. In 1988, staff reporter Sharon Bernstein wrote an article for the Los Angeles Herald Examiner titled ‘When the ‘king’ of adult died, the truth died with Him.’ In the article, Cher Vinarde (Holmes) is interviewed. She stated how she and Sharon had first found out about one another in 1981 after John’s arrest and that she “kept house” for Holmes for ten years. Vinarde purposely kept a low profile then, and throughout the years. However, you might want to consider approaching her for your book, John. I don’t know if she’d want to participate, but I believe she would make an interesting and fresh addition.

      • John 2:55 pm on July 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        In my chapter “True Lies” I outline and discuss all of the contradictions and revisionist history made by Sharon, Dawn, Thorson and Holmes. It’s getting to be a long chapter. But, as attorney Earl Hanson said “We will never know the whole truth”. Touch’e !!

        • CynFin 8:19 pm on July 8, 2014 Permalink

          What does Sharon’s bio look like? I understand that she was a nurse, married John prior to his porn fame and possibly his addictions. Was Sharon a drug addict? Did she continue her nursing career? Did they have children together? Did John have children? Sharon never remarried?

        • CynFin 2:24 pm on July 11, 2014 Permalink

          Thank you.

        • John 1:20 pm on July 9, 2014 Permalink

          Sharon’s obit is on the blog-

          She was just your average person, who happened to marry John when they were young. Dawn talks a lot about her in her book, Road to Wonderland and Jill in her book, LIfe Measure in Inches. Sharon worked hard as a nurse, probably never got over John Holmes … I really don’t think she ever dated again either. No kids, but they tried at one point and she had a miscarriage in the mid 60s.

      • localarts 4:54 pm on July 8, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Everything is open to speculation unless we know it to be a proven fact. Third party stories, hearsay, he said she said, all have to be taken into account depending on the credibility of the source. What motive did the source have for making so & so allegations? Some things are obvious others are not.

        As a consultant on the movie “Wonderland” Sharon Holmes broke down several times according to director James Cox. Why did Sharon break down? I cannot interpret her emotional state of mind but it probably had something to do with her deceased ex husband’s involvement in the facilitation & likely participation in four counts of capital murder.

        Sharon had tolerated and may have profited from her husband’s “life’s work” for the better part of a decade so I doubt she broke out in tears over that. Wonderland took everything to another level in their relationship. Sharon could tolerate the porn but this was different.

        Jill, I’ve never read any of your books but what excerpts I have read, seem to be well researched and delivered with an unbiased opinion. That’s something I really appreciate.

      • criticextraordinaire 6:55 pm on July 10, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Jill, the Holmes marriage indeed was hardly a secret. Back in 1976 I had a college buddy who claimed to know porn stars. He told us that Johnny Wadd was a married man who managed an apartment building on the side when he wasn’t out there laying pipe.

        He also claimed that the girls told him that a lot of the massive wad shots back then were a mix of confectioners sugar and Carnation Evaporated Milk. We thought he was talking out of his ass and making up all that stuff. Turns out he was spot-on about John C. Holmes.

        I still wonder about the sugar-and-mlk concoction. :-O

        • Jill C. Nelson 11:10 am on July 11, 2014 Permalink

          I found that story funny, Critic, but do wonder how widespread the Holmes’s marriage truly was. Maybe Sharon didn’t realize that people knew. According to Sharon, apart from her best friend Nancy who worked with Sharon at the pediatrician’s office and the doctor who employed Sharon, she claimed that she told no one about their marriage (during the 1970’s). Naturally, many of their tenants at the apartment complex knew, as did Sharon’s parents. (Sharon’s father didn’t find out about John’s vocation until 1975 when he drove past a marquee with John’s name on it.) Joel Sussman knew John was married because John told Joel. Bob Chinn told Jennifer and I that during a road trip to Vegas one time early on, John mentioned to Bob that he was married. Bob thought it was bs. Imagine his surprise when Bob found out it was true many years later.

          Bob and Sharon met in person at a Los Angeles hotel when they were both interviewed for “When X Ruled the World” in 2004. Sharon stopped Bob when she recognized him going through the lobby and they had a chat. He was very surprised and pleased to finally meet her. Bob recalled Sharon told him how John had always admired and respected Bob and that he’d considered Bob a decent man in a sketchy business. I doubt he used that word specifically to describe the business, but I’d have to agree with John on that one. Bob Chinn is a quality human being.

    • Jill C. Nelson 7:01 am on July 9, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you very much, localarts. ;-)

  • John 8:28 am on June 23, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Just A Few Things… All Wonderland 

    Hi, just a few things today, before I lose focus and forget to post them.

    The link to the Georgiana Steele-Waller free e-book is finally here. She was the young lady, who like Julia Negron was a 60s model at first, married a music star… and in the 80s, had a brush with Wonderland. In her case, it was one of Nash’s cronies, she says…. Read more here. A creepy story.

    CJ sends this…

    The italics are mine. I was glad that I was quite close in my original Occam’s Razor research assessment of that neighborhood at least (all things being equal, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions is the answer):

    I lived on Princeton Avenue (in Stockton) when the Launius family was there. In fact, my family still keeps the place and remains in contact with old friends and neighbors. The neighborhood was designed for “Baby Boomers” (I read that too) returning from WWII. Small homes (approx. 1200 square feet), large yards for children and really not much else. The “Country Club” area is much more opulent, but boating (1,000 miles of waterways) and golfing is close so we took advantage of the proximity. We were moderate/low income families. The Launius family rented a home on our street for maybe . . . one year. I will check with a friend to confirm this. They were three beautiful boys (blonde/blue-eyed) and so out-of-control (Ron, Rickey and Dave). A loud, raucous . . . . crazy, screaming family! Now, that I find that “Wonderland” is a real story about real people that I actually knew, my head is spinning! How do people get this messed up?

    I am in touch with CJ as a source for the book. Stay tuned.

    Oh! and speaking of Julia Negron… this is the man who went with her to Wonderland that fateful afternoon. He is a musician/songwriter. He co-wrote the sad tune “You Are So Beautiful” with Dennis Wilson and Billy Preston. Nice royalties, I bet. Small world when it comes to Wonderland. Bruce is still around, and doing musical theater or something these days, and quite successful, so I hope he’s not mad that I outed him.

    Rock on 1977!!


    • Nicole 4:40 pm on February 7, 2015 Permalink | Reply

      Very late posting but always wondered about the wonderland murders. I’ve study everything I can online. I have some questions, maybe you can give me your option… Who do you think let john in that night? It’s looks like Barbra was still asleep when attacked. She’s on the floor right by the couch in a blanket, plus she wasn’t a regular there. Why would she let someone in? If billy or joy let john in.. How did the killers get to Ron without waking him? Wouldn’t their be a struggle or confortation in the livingroom, that surely would have woke up the house! Plus Billy and joys room way after rons. Why didn’t Susan or Ron hear them coming up the stairs? Billy and joy are the only ones who looked like they knew what was coming. I think it’s joys voice.. They heard yelling “please don’t kill me” If the police was watching joys house.. Why didn’t they see the killers going in?? I have a ton of questions, but I’ll only ask a few. Thanks hope you have time to answer them. We will never know for sure the answers to these questions, but it’s nice to have different ideas.. Thanks again, nicole

  • John 1:42 pm on May 15, 2014 Permalink | Reply  

    Quick Update – Part Of Chapter 2 – Coming Soon! 

    What a crazy past few months, mostly with my job. The company was bought, and as the main numbers man, it’s been one headache after another. We have so much $hit piled up in the back room that American Pickers need to get over here.

    However, some Wonderland things are brewing and you will know soon! I need to review and add some things to Chapter 2. I hope to make a post on Sunday or Monday.

    Til then, I leave you with this little tidbit via the late 70s… from noted historian and author, Shelby Foote. He’s right though, that is the trouble with new poetry, except today they are at coffee houses. Boring!

    Credit: Author and Historian, Shelby Foote.

    Credit: Author and Historian, Shelby Foote.

    Stay tuned!

    • Gayle 6:03 pm on May 15, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Super excited for chapter 2!

      • localarts 4:55 pm on May 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Can’t wait!

        • Bobby 3:28 am on May 17, 2014 Permalink

          Indeed – it’ll definitely be well worth the wait!

    • Jill C. Nelson 6:39 am on May 18, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Great quote! Here’s another one I love that may or may not be inspiring by the late, great Charles Bukowski: “I’m always worried, well, you know, every time I go upstairs with my wine bottle. Sometimes I’ll sit at that typewriter for fifteen minutes, you know. I don’t go up there to write. The typewriter’s up there. If it doesn’t start moving, I say, well this could be the night that I hit the dust.” — Charles Bukowski

      Looking forward to your work, John! :)

    • Randy 11:24 am on May 18, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Happy Birthday Ronnie!

      • localarts 6:46 pm on May 20, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Ronnie would have been 70! I guess that kind of put’s into perspective just how long ago it was.
        Joy had a birthday May 14, she would have been 79.

        • John 11:44 am on May 21, 2014 Permalink

          Amazing. Yes, Ronnie is about a year older than my Dad. I’m no spring chicken myself.

        • localarts 11:13 am on May 28, 2014 Permalink

          Tension is building for chapter two, need I say more.

        • John 1:40 pm on May 28, 2014 Permalink

          Chapter 2 or whatever number it ends up being is done, I just need to arrange some things. By Friday…I promise!

    • criticextraordinaire 7:52 pm on May 18, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Hopefully when your book comes out, it will increase enough interest in the Holmes story that “Wonderland 2” will finally see the light of day.

    • Mark C 1:37 am on May 20, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Crew doing great work!!!! I look forward to each update and article. Just so happen be watching Boogie Nights on FXM & Nash home robbery scene on ( Can’t Sleep here on East Coast), Great acting guy playing Nash doing. Guy playing Nash said he knows Rick Springfield on the film maybe was true who knows Nash know lot people & 99 Luftballons playing on end of scene when gun play starts. Sorry just little tid-bits of watching this movie scene while typing now. Keep up wonderful work don’t get down and quit you doing great.

    • Tori 12:18 pm on June 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      John are u releasing the chapters as u go? Or how r u doing this? Id like to read chapter one :-)

    • John 12:44 pm on June 14, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Not releasing any chapters, per se, but snippets of pages and they are subject to change. I have my outline, and am now filling in the blanks so to speak. 3 more interviews to do!!

      • Tori 12:41 pm on September 2, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        Have u released anything other then that first part . I want to read !! :-)

  • John 8:39 am on March 20, 2014 Permalink | Reply
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    Gary Fontenot, Manager Of The Starwood 

    Gary Fontenot was the manager of the Starwood during its heyday in the seventies and until the club closed in 1981. Although we heard a bit about Gary from Lee who worked at the Starwood (read those amazing posts here), not much else was really known about him. Gary was from a large family and he grew up in a very small town in southwestern Louisiana. Like so many others, he headed out west to Los Angeles to seek a better life.

    Gary passed away in Honduras in March of 1999. From the information available, it is easy to say that Gary Fontenot was a good man. I thank his brother, Patrick, for answering some of my questions and filling in the blanks.

    Rest in peace, Gary.

    In Memory of Gary Fontenot. Rest in Peace.

    In Memory of Gary Fontenot. Rest in Peace.

    Here is a start John…keeping in mind that I was living in Victorville California…stationed at George AFB.  I was in the Air Force and stationed there from 1977 – 1980/81.

    Did you ever visit your brother at his house in Studio City during the 70s or 80s? Did you meet any showbiz types?

    My family and I visited Gary as often as possible on the weekends.  I am not that familiar with Los Angeles and that area…but Gary lived in a rather nice little place that was pretty much walking distance to Sunset Blvd and it did not seem like it was a far drive from the Starwood.  I do not remember the street name.  He lived there with his friend Michael and Michael I believe was a nurse…doing private work if I recall.  They had been friends for some time.  I would also take some of my military friends to Gary’s home on Friday nights so they could experience the nightclub life at the Starwood.  He would give us the VIP treatment everytime we would visit.

    What exactly happened to Gary at the end of his life? Was he really living in central America? Retired?

    When things began to go downhill for Gary he decided to move to Honduras.  He actually drove there with some kid that I believe was from that area were they settled.  Gary opened his own place down there and seemed to be happy…always inviting me to visit.  However, by nature of my military job, I had to be very careful.  Gary experienced an attempted robbery one evening when closing and was shot in the stomach.  I don’t think he ever recovered, although his cause of death was attributed to prostate cancer.  My brother Dale, flew down to Honduras several times to visit Gary and the last time he flew down was to ensure Gary received a proper burial.

    Did Gary ever discuss Eddie Nash, who was his boss at the Starwood?

    Gary did in fact talk a little about Nash.  Lot of times it was in anger, however many times I believe the tone was respect.  Nash would provide Gary with new cars which Gary loved…he did like showing off a little.  I remember the last car given to Gary by Nash was a brand new Cadillac…we would drive to the Starwood in it and employees of the Starwood would jump in the car to park it when they recognized Gary in the car.

    What did Gary do for a living right after the Starwood closed?

    After the Starwood, Gary was not the same.  He moved into an apartment complex and dabbled a little in real estate…but was unemployed a lot of the time;although he would never tell me.  When at the Starwood, he was in control and afterward he seemed to lose that feeling.  The apartment complex was nothing fancy…about the only thing I remember about it was a visitor that came by one day while I was there.  Gary introduced him as an ex-FBI individual.  I assumed he was because he was carrying a gun.  They did not talk about anything specific and I guessed they had been acquaintances from way back.

    Did your brother ever tell you that his house was shot up by a dealer with a machine gun? He was looking for the soundman of the Starwood, who owed him some money? Gary allegedly let the soundman, Dom Fragomeli, stay at his house in Studio City for a few weeks in 1981.

    In 1981 I left California for Texas.  I don’t think Gary was living in the original home when I first got to California.  I am thinking he was still living in the apartment complex…is that what you meant as far as “home”.  Gary barely mentioned that happening…we would talk by phone…He did not go into detail.  But, knowing Gary, it would not surprise me that he had allowed someone to stay in his home.  He was just that type of person.  I believe he left California shortly after that incident.  Keep in mind, the Nash thing, the Starwood, coupled by him losing a lot of money in the stock market…Gary needed a change.  He had a hate/love relationship with California.  As a small town boy, Los Angeles and the Hollywood scene took its toll on Gary.  He was apparently good at what he did, managing nightclubs, but did rub elbows with some questionable people.

    Hope this helps…as you think of questions, let me know and I will answer them the best I can. Will try and dig up some photos of Gary.  You would really need to know where and how he grew up to understand the personal conflict he had with the whole Hollywood scene…

    Have a great day.

    • Bonnie Brae 4:41 pm on March 20, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Damn John. You are thorough.

    • John 6:46 pm on March 20, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Thoroughly in love! I’d be offended if you weren’t so sexy.

      • Bonnie Brae 10:09 am on March 21, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        I’d be offended if you thought I was anything else!

      • Gayle 10:07 pm on March 21, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        You are right about that John, she is a totally sexy! …and a fantastic person, I am grateful for her friendship.

    • Bonnie Brae 10:12 am on March 21, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      And yes. Your passion for this blog is part of your charm.

    • Mykal Fontenot 7:13 pm on March 25, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Hi john, my names mykal fontenot, and i am gary fontenots nephew and godson. It was as a result of my interest in my uncle, that i found your blog, and after questioning my father patrick about it, that he in turn contacted you…. i would just like to say thank you for sharing a mutual respect for my uncle, as well as for going out of your way to share his story, and keep his spirit alive…..much love, brother….rock n roll. Mykal

      • david Gutiérrez 6:39 pm on March 9, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        I remember gary fontenot from honduras very well i can give you more info my cell 615) 4031841

        • John 1:01 pm on March 18, 2015 Permalink

          David, I’ll be in touch with you!! Thanks.

        • joii resnick 5:48 pm on March 18, 2015 Permalink

          i wored at starwood since it opened with Gary and kathy. i was good friends with gary he was awesome, also i was with him right b4 he moved to honduras… i have a few pictures too.

      • John 6:09 pm on March 26, 2014 Permalink | Reply

        It was my pleasure, Mykal. Thanks for the kind words. God bless.

    • Bonnie Brae 7:00 pm on March 26, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I am so jelly Gayle. You are one of very few people that actually grew up in LA.

    • Ken D. 5:00 pm on April 16, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Not heard anything out of you in awhile there bud. Hope everything is well!

    • joii 3:24 pm on July 3, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      Hi I knew Gary very well in the Starwood days I lived worked and breathed it. was with Gary and Michael byard all the time…I have a couple of pics of him at the starwood, spent many a day at all his houses. and yes he was living on havenhurst here in w Hollywood right before he moved to Honduras. I am very sad to read he is gone…

      • david Gutiérrez 6:35 pm on March 9, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        That was a apartments get in contact with me my cell (615)4031841

      • david Gutiérrez 6:36 pm on March 9, 2015 Permalink | Reply

        I remember gary fonteno from Honduras very well for many years

    • baby 1:39 pm on August 24, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      That bouncers name was big eddie..He was nice at first. Seemed to have had a learning disability. Then one night he seemed very forceful to me and tried to kiss me. I found it odd. St eared clear of him after that..then also moved away from hollywood.

    • baby 6:20 pm on August 25, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      That bouncer they called big eddie.

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